“It’s wonderful and it’s horrible,” Ben said.

I had said something to him about how awesome it was that he and his wife were so successful -

“People say that to us all the time,” he said.  

“But the truth is

it’s amazing

and it’s awful.”

There was a three second pause between each phrase, since he was drunk.

“It’s magical

and it’s abysmal.

It’s fantastic

and it’s hell.”

He seemed to be referring to their marriage.

“The reason you’re not successful,” he continued,  

“is because

you don’t push yourself.”

“Yeah, I’m lazy,” I said.

“You’re not lazy.  But

you don’t push yourself.”